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May 23, 2005

REPUBLICANS WIN FILIBUSTER COMPROMISE

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REPUBLICANS WIN COMPROMISE
What Have Democrats Not Given Away?


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A bipartisan group of senators reached an agreement after days of talks to avert a showdown Tuesday over President Bush's judicial nominees, Sen. John McCain announced Monday evening.

8:10 PM REID IS NOW SAYING WE ARE MOVING FORWARD
Michigan Judges Will Be Approved.
Supreme Court?  Reid hopes for advise and consent, consultation.  Senate should be as it was.. Important night for Senate.  Bush forced to consult with Senate.  Will continue to filibuster on Myers.

8:15 PM FRIST: UP AND DOWN VOTE, UP AND DOWN VOTE.

Welcome to the Machine.  Frist is pleased.  Owen after four years, two weeks, one day,  Pryor, Up and Down vote.  Janice Rogers Brown will get up or down vote.
Republicans are up and the left is down.  Down and out.

8:19 PM Frist says Saad and Myers deserve up and down vote.  Now he is bashing the Dems on being wrong to block them. 

8:21 Supreme Court.  Frist is first to bring it up.  Up and down vote.  No need for constitutional option.  No weapons pulled off table by Repubs.  We would have won. Mutual trust and good will. Frist will monitor agreement.  Hall monitor effect.  I haven't wanted to do this. Bad faith, behavior on other side made me do it.

8:25 PM Frist: This will be spun as victory by fourteen, I see it as victory by Senate. Gratified that Democrat leader looks to move forward. 

8:27 Reid: Says we are moving forward.  Praises Byrd, Warner. The Heretik  can't stand it.  Reid is saying it is a victory for the people of the United States. 

Reid, buddy, you just saw your heros  hand over the store.  Are you kidding me?
He just tore up the paper with the names of Repubs to be viewed.  Says we saved time.  List of agenda. 

Reid just said it's over with and he feels so good. He will sleep well.  I won't. 

But there will be filibusters in the future.  Mister Smith can still come to Washington.  Praising Frist now.  Many trips to his office, his few trips to mine.
THAT PRETTY MUCH SAYS IT RIGHT THERE, HARRY.  UNBELIEVABLE.

Now it is a Warner love fest.  Thanks to the other thirteen compromisers. 


8:34 PM  McConnell is now piling on.
Rehash of how Senate has deteriorated. Praise for Frist.  The group of fourteen led by McCain and Warner have allowed us to step back from the brink.  All options are still on the table.  The fourteen don't expect this to happen.  We will deal with noms the way we always did.  I wouldn't have done it this way.  Up and down votes for the terrible threesome.

THE KOOL AID HAS BEEN DRUNK.

Durbin is recognized.
Ready to quote Churchill about avoid bullet being shot.  Gets interrupted to turn back to Repubs.  Dems got shot in the head anyway.

Durbin wants to continue with good news of agreement.

Warner speaks, Schumer wants to speak.  The mop up begins.  The toilet has overflown and the Senate now stinks.

Durbin gets his Churchill line in.
Principle wins out.  BUT THE DEMS LOST ON ALL THREE OF THE JUDGES THEY WANTED TO BLOCK. I don't get it.

I am picking up the wafting of Munich.   The  Senate  has been saved . We have been admonished and I think appropriately so.  Actual words out of Durbin's mouth.

WARNER: Total humility.
Our wonderful Senate can continue its long and distinguished service.

SCHUMER:  Armageddon has been avoided. We stepped up to the precipice and didn't fall in.   The  agreement serves this body well. 

What about all the people who are going to be screwed by Brown and Owen, Charlie?

8:52 PM MORE SCHUMER: But Bush will now consult.  Feared loss of checks and balances. We must all make efforts to avoid the poison of too much partisanship.  Hope, hope, hope.  A better Republic.  This could become an historic night with this agreement.

8:52:30 I am floating on a Kool Aid Sea with that strange sinking feeling.  No, that is just my gut.  A sinking feeling in my gut.

8:55 PM I AM NOW GOING TO EAT DINNER AND TRY TO KEEP IT DOWN.

9:05 I never left.  plans for adjourning  the Senate Session.  Discussion of tomorrows business.  Life goes on.  Blah, blah.  Owen Fest starts tomorrow.  Yesteryear will follow for a long time after that.



NY TIMES: Centrists from both parties reached a compromise Monday night to avoid a showdown on President Bush's stalled judicial nominees and the Senate's own filibuster rules, officials from both parties said.

These officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the agreement would clear the way for yes or no votes on some of Bush's nominees, but make no guarantee.

Under the agreement, Democrats would pledge not to filibuster any of Bush's future appeals court or Supreme Court nominees except in "extraordinary circumstances."

For their part, Republicans agreed not to support an attempt to strip Democrats of their right to block votes.

COMPOMISE?
The Republicans will get every judge they wanted in most: Owens, Brown.  Welcome to the Nineteenth Century America!

REUTERS:"We've got a deal," Nebraska Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson told reporters. Senators plan to announce details at a news conference shortly.

The deal is aimed at averting a historic vote on whether to strip the minority Democrats of their ability to use a procedural tactic known as a filibuster to block Bush's candidates for federal courts.

NOW WE HAVE A  HISTORIC NON VOTE ON THE NUCLEAR OPTION!
Owens and Brown will pass through the Senate to seats as judges. Anyone subject to their Nineteenth Century judicial wisdom is unlikely to feel like a winner.


TALK LEFT: Sell-Out Deal Made: - Bush's Judges In

CROOKS AND LIARS: VICTORY for Democrats

THE NEXT HURRAH: It's Up to Us to Define Victory

SWING STATE: UPDATES

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Well, its a win-win for the NeoCons and business as usual in Washington...And a further neutering of the DNC

What a fucking travesty...the Dems sold their people out, lock stock and barrel.

They're worse than the Republicans...at least THEY fight to the death for what they want.

Jesus Christ...Blaghdaddy's disgusted...can you tell?

Oh- and what the fuck use is a filibuster if you can't use it?

Someone solve this riddle, 'cause it's too much for Blagh to figure out:

"Don't filibuster or we'll ban it."

"O.K., we won't filibuster if you don't ban it..."

WTF?

I'm seeing a lot of people on our side claiming victory, but I just don't see it. I don't know if they really believe it deep down, or if they're just trying to convince themselves that we're not totally screwed.

I see half the Dems and half the Republicans declaring some victory, the other half are saying the other Democrats and Republicans are the real losers.

We have losers everywhere. Democrats who declare victory when Brown and Owen will rule where it matters: on the bench. Oy.

Beware the power of a martyr. Frist could very well be milking that role soon.

Nevertheless, it appears the moderates have drawn a line in the sand against the extremists. In the words of the Wolf, "it's not time to start sucking each others dicks just yet". I certainly do not see how this is a win for all American people or the Constitution at all. We're more divided than ever. And the extremists of both sides (those who pay attention to their respective polarized medias) are seething. I do sincerely hope Reid is "three or four steps ahead" and thus senses a backfire brewing within the GOP.

But should the GOP splinter, I have a feeling the extremism will become ever more brash and possibly more influential, especially should the dollar tank and there becomes little for the desperate to run off of besides the propaganda coming out of Colorado Springs.

This is coming down to, how sane are we as a people? Recent events indicate there is a mass hysteria abrew that may be impossible to stop until its own inertia ruptures the barrier between civil and reponssible VS the reactionary and ignorant. What kind of a running start did they get? Did anybody think to check?

If you compared all this to a Bill Romanowski hit in slo-mo, he still may be a foot away or so before impact, but we know at this point that it's going to hurt, but we're going to sacrifice ourselves for the meaningless short pass anyhow. We can't know what will happen with this -- how injured we'll wind up, until the inevitable comes. There are too many undefineds which both parties at this point are trying to feel out to see what truly works to convince us this is all still business as usual.

It's gonna get worse. I'm wondering if we're not dealing with collusion here. Duh. . .

Thanx so much for this Heretik!! I missed it all when it happened and this morning I've been trying to figure out if we're screwed or not. Guess I have my answer now. Thanx again. You rock!!

"What Have Democrats Not Given Away?"

So I am having a hard time finding someone to support... I voted for Kerry at the time, though he did not deserve my vote. It is a strange feeling when you give up on backing someone who will support your issues to some one who says he will support some, then he looses miserably. Also, if that guy is terrible, and cannot fight... It seems we need to seek other alternatives outside the Democrats, but where?

Arg...

GOP will still go nuclear. Frist killed bunches and bunches of cats! Like he has a soul to guard at all!

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